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# Off the Hook with Erica & Luke
- URL: https://www.willduder.com/off-the-hook-with-erica-luke/
- Published: 2023-07-07T20:20:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-09-04T14:13:36.000Z
- Description: Episode 13 of Off the Hook with Erica Lockwood and Luke Hill.
- Author: Will Duderstadt
- Tags: Podcasts & Interviews

I join [Erica Lockwood](https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericalockwood?ref=willduder.com) & [Luke Hill](https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukehillconstructionrecruiter/?ref=willduder.com) for lucky number episode 13 of their podcast [Off the Hook](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/off-the-hook-with-erica-luke/id1666065009?ref=willduder.com) in an episode title, "Culture: The difference between being a good company and a GREAT one."

For about 50 minutes, we have lively discussion on a variety of subjects including company culture, branding, summer internships, and of course, the greatest debate of all time, Pancakes vs. Waffles.